Today on the Tales of a Red Clay Rambler Podcast I have a panel discussion on ceramic education with Ursula Hargens and Dustin Yager. Hargens is a ceramic artist, educator, and founder of the Minnesota New Institute for Ceramic Education. This nine-month studio intensive offers advanced students an in-depth study of ceramic history, professional practices and critical thinking. Dustin Yager is the Head of Educational at the Northern Clay Center, which hosts MN NICE in their studios in Minneapolis, MN. For the second part of the interview Dawn Malcolm and Juss Heinsalu join us to discuss their participation in the pilot year of the program.